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Amazon or Rackspace or Azure?
I am looking for suggestions on which provider is good for a startup.
#1 flexibility in controlling my own applications and configurations
including Hadoop,HBase, Radoop etc
#2 price point to make it economical as i expand as i will invest myself
for first few months at least and need at least 64GB or more in terms of RAM.
I'm in the process of migrating production infrastructure away from Rackspace onto AWS. We deemed Rackspace to be immature for a variety of reasons that I'll elaborate on privately if you'd like.
Out of curiosity, have you looked at heroku? I know you'd be yielding some control initially but if your technology stack is supported by them or by one of their integrated partners it is, by far, the easiest way to get a web app bootstrapped and publicly accessible. In my experience getting something out there ASAP is awfully important toward building/keeping momentum going for a project.
You're going to want to go with AWS to get the kind of flexibility you'll
want to have for Hadoop. I don't think that Rackspace even has anything in
their Cloud Servers offering that will get you close to 64GB+ RAM, but AWS
has several instance types that will get you there.
I hate to pimp my own project when answering a question like this, but
we're building a "Heroku for big data" that manages your Hadoop (or Spark
or Storm) infrastructure on top of AWS, making it as easy as Heroku to
deploy big data apps to the cloud. This may not line up with your
deployment timeline, but we'll be coming out in private beta in a few
months. Check it out: http://www.scalacity.com
AWS with ElasticBeanstalk and RDS has worked well for us. The Eclipse
plugin makes it easy to ssh into boxes.
If you're hardcore, you can use Asgard, https://github.com/Netflix/asgard
> I'm in the process of migrating production infrastructure away from
> Rackspace onto AWS. We deemed Rackspace to be immature for a variety of
> reasons that I'll elaborate on privately if you'd like.
Getting stuff going on Heroku is super-easy, but if you're doing work with big data and big RAM, you'll probably end up moving away from it as it's really optimized for serving up pages to zillions of users, not grinding through tons of data or dealing with large in-memory problems. We had to move our Node.js implementation off onto EC2 because the 500mb/process limit just wasn't cutting it.
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On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Bryan Burke <bryan.t.bu...@gmail.com>wrote:
Sridhar - have you considered Google App Engine? You can't control as much as you can on AWS but you don't have to worry about administration etc. You can get it out faster for less effort expended and if it takes off then move over to AWS for finer grained control.
On Dec 18, 2012, at 8:47 AM, Sridhar Alla <chew...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rent dedicated servers from reputable company if your CPU/RAM more or less constant throughout a month from 20% during a night to 80% peak. Only use Amazon, Azure, ext. if it's free or your use is episodic because all of those services are extremely expensive and suffer from performance. Openshift is 1,793% overpriced. Create a plan of what you will do if something will fail and design your service to be able to survive it.
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Awesome group of awesome people and lots of invaluable suggestions.
I will certainly do my due diligence.
Summary of the discussion
#1 Rackspace is not the optimal choice. so i am going to scratch that off.
#2 AWS looks very good from all the positive feedback
#3 Look into Heroku . Link: http://www.scalacity.com. Beta testing
#4 Look into Asgard, https://github.com/Netflix/asgard. Interesting stuff!
#5 Linode is a good alternative .
#6 Look at Google App Engine. low end suited for prototypes.
#7 Don?t give up on Azure yet J
#8 Rent dedicated servers from reputable company.
With any (reputable) service you use, you should scour the web for
free/low-cost starter packages. There's a lot of competition right now.
And let us know how it goes, since I'm sure others are interested.
A member of the Vegas Tech community and co-founder of Fandeavor gave a
talk about this and the different options. Check out his blog post about it
It might be helpful in determining which solution works best.
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