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Commission for NSF grant application writer/editor?

Hi,

Does anyone here have some experience working with a grant application editor?

I am in touch with one of them and he's asking for a commission between 5% and 10% of the grant amount (he seems to assume it's possible to raise $150K through an NSF grant).

I should also point out that he claims it's a 3-4 weeks work and he's going to give away about 2-3 weeks of work (at $1,000/week) based on my budget.

Thanks in advance for any feedback!

Raphael.

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Mitchell Portnoy
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Mitchell Portnoy Entrepreneur
Healthcare Information Executive
My situation is nearly identical except that my writer will earn $2,500 plus options (small amount, very small) upon successful funding only. Typos courtesy of my iPhone
Dale J. Stephens
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Dale J. Stephens Entrepreneur
Founder/CEO, UnCollege.org & Penguin Author
A good writer should charge about $6k. I have one if you need it.
John Sechrest
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John Sechrest Entrepreneur • Advisor
Mentor at Startup Mentor
I have hired grant writers for SBIR grants at this level. there was more to it than just the writing. finding a good grant writer can make a significant difference. focus on the understanding they have of the agency you are targeting.
Cynthia Schames
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Cynthia Schames Entrepreneur
Founder & CEO, AbbeyPost
I have a good friend who's a grant writer. Happy to put you in touch if you'd like to sanity check.
Javier Gomez-Cirlos
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Javier Gomez-Cirlos Entrepreneur
Co-Founder & Managing Director at OfficeFab.vn
$150k sounds about right. One of my previous partners had worked with the NSF on a few projects. My understanding $250k is about the max limit before in-depth and lengthy reviews.
Jeffrey Cary
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Jeffrey Cary Entrepreneur
Senior Project Manager at netPolarity, Inc.
The best that I've worked with is Linda Kirwin from Kirwin Grants. Feel free to look her up and let her know Jeff Cary referred you. She is very capable, fair AND effective.
Preetha Ram
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Preetha Ram Entrepreneur • Advisor
CEO and CoFounder, OpenStudy
Rachel,
I have an academic past life and have received several NSF SBIR grants as the Principal investigator. Would be glad to help you. Give me a call. 404271 9791

Gaurav Garg
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Gaurav Garg Entrepreneur
Raphael, I have successfully submitted and raised over $1M from the NIH in federal grants in the past. I will be happy to help you review and submit your application. Best regards, Gaurav
Lee Ann Guertin
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Lee Ann Guertin Entrepreneur
Editorial Research Manager, Online Analytics
Hi Raphael, I used to write and edit grant proposals within the biotech industry during an earlier period of my education and career. Depending on the submission date and deadlines applicable, you will need to refer to the 2013 or 2014 proposal guidelines. According to the 2014 guidelines administrative and clerical personnel costs would be included within scope of the total funds of the grant, so the editor is potentially correct if you acknowledge a technical writer/grant proposal writer/editor as part of your team's general operations. If a writer/editor resource is not included in your personnel scope you may be able to account for this type of resource against miscellaneous administrative or research assistant funds. http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/policydocs/pappguide/nsf14001/gpg_2.jsp#IIC2gib Has the editor included the number of hours or hourly rate? Rates and time to complete will often vary depending on the professional experience level of the writer/editor, length of proposal, type, technical complexity, and completeness of the existing drafts and supporting materials. What they quoted to you is fair on a per week basis depending on the expected number of hours, etc. but the percentage commission of a total grant is pushing it. Hope this helps! - Lee Ann Sent from my iPhone
Raphael Londner
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Raphael Londner Entrepreneur
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Thanks all for your feedback!

I should have made my request a little more straightforward. I'm not looking for a grant application writer, but I am wondering whether his commission requests are fair or not.

John, I completely agree with you that having a good grant writer is critical and that can make a big difference. I definitely plan to interview him more about his understanding of the National Science Foundation process.

Dale, thank you for providing the $6K figure, this isthe type of informationI was looking for. As it stands, my grant writer would only charge me $1,000 to write the grant proposal (he would have earned $4,000 prior to that for research work and provisional patent writing), but then take a 5% to 10% cut on the grant money (if funded), i.e. between $7,500 and $15,000 if we manage to get $150K (obviously, I guess we could get less). Surely, he bears more risk with such a fee structure, but from my perspective, is it worth it or should I want to pay him more upfront for writing the grant application and negotiatea lower commission fee?

He seems like a very honest person and has very reasonable per-hour fees, but the grant commission rate just seems a bit high to me. Iam thus wondering whether such an arrangement is unusual or not.

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