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FD Message Etiquette

Evening Folks,

When trying to connect with potential cofounders, how many messages do you normally send before giving up? I typically filter for those who are currently looking, willing to start immediately and do NOT have an idea. Yet, more often than not, I won't get a reply. Or many have come back and said they thought they had froze their account, or are now engaged in an idea (or new job) and didn't update their profile, etc. I'm curious what etiquette others have come up with or try to follow when on the hunt?

It would be great if we could add phone numbers (optional of course!), so I could quickly call to see if someone's interested or not. I find that would save all parties a ton of time.

Thanks in advance,
Sati

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Eric Sexton
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Eric Sexton Entrepreneur
Game Desginer at Crate Entertainment
Interesting. Maybe FD should have an automated system that checks how long it has been since someone has logged in. If it has been a long time then FD will put their profile into an inactive state. Then people looking to connect will have a clear idea of what they are walking into when they contact them.

Of course if they have a large majority of their clients inactive, that might not be too good for them in the long run. Better to let everyone think they have thousands of potential contacts.
Stefan Broda
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Stefan Broda Entrepreneur
Partner Program Manager at Atlassian
something like OKCupid's last time logged in and the replies often/selectively indicator ;)
Mohammad Forouzani
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Mohammad Forouzani Entrepreneur
CEO at Forecast.net
I really wouldnt add my phone number... I get enough calls as is; and things like this shouldn't be realtime, because you often want to do due diligence before responding.

@Sati I would suggest you try to iterate over the message you send to try and increase response rate.
Mohamed Alborno
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Mohamed Alborno Entrepreneur
Director / Producer @ The New Country Film Project
Very interesting Sati. Count me in. I'm interested in drafting a script that can help getting a good reply. -- Crowdsway, Inc. Create inspiring videos by aspiring filmmakers. crowdsway.com | @crowdsway | www.youtube.com/thecrowdsway | facebook.com/crowdsway +[removed to protect privacy] Montreal, QC +1-415-95-CROWD (7693) San Francisco, CA
Eric Sexton
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Eric Sexton Entrepreneur
Game Desginer at Crate Entertainment
I know some people are better at emailing while others are better at talking to a live person. While I can sympathize with the frustration of not knowing if your email is even being seen, I agree with Mohammad that adding your phone number would be bad. At least until you have established contact with someone.
Candice Hughes
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Candice Hughes Entrepreneur • Advisor
CEO & Founder Hughes BioPharma, AdapTac Games, Digital & Mobile Health, Biotech, Technology Scout

I like the concept of indicating inactive profiles. This could either be done via a public activity counter (as someone suggested show date last active on the site). Or privately, FounderDating could send out a message after not seeing any activity on the site for a certain time (say 2 months). The person is then asked to respond to the message- yes, I want to continue on the site or no, remove my profile (maybe third choice of mark me inactive). If the person doesn't reply to any of these messages, the site marks their profile inactive after 6 months (while notifying in advance). The person must then actively request to have the account reactivated.

I have also noticed that at least 25-35% of my messages are not answered. Then you don't know if that means the person isn't interested or that are inactive. It would be a time saver if I knew ahead of time the profile was inactive so I wouldn't spend time posting the messages.

I guess a proactive step we could take is to search for forum posts from the person. If they have no posts there is a greater chance they are inactive.

Marc DeWalle
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Marc DeWalle Entrepreneur
Entrepreneurial MBA with extensive experience in development and management of sales channels, partnerships and alliance
I just reach out once with a short message just to see if the person is even interested. If I hear nothing back I move on. I think you need to focus on working with people that are eager. If you need to stir them up first, I might not be a good fit anyway.

- marc
Kobus Marneweck
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Kobus Marneweck Entrepreneur
Founder and CEO at Cingo
I really don't understand Founder Dating's policy on reaching out to co-founders via a post. I have sent out several requests to co-founders but had few replies.

I did a quick survey of people that responded to follow up requests and found that most people did not even read the first request.

Founder Dating is not working as dating dating site with it's current policy.

Kobus

Jeremy Lautman
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Jeremy Lautman Entrepreneur
Full Stack Software Engineer (Java/Angularjs) UPenn Grad student for summer internships
Dating sucks. That's the nature of it. However, there are some tried and true methods to getting more responses. Personally I rely heavily on the tips put out on the Ok Cupid blog.

The number one essential point is to put something personal in the message indicating that you actually read their profile. We're all busy, and when I get a message that is clearly a form message my bullshit-o-meter, rightly or wrongly, goes off.

When I get a message from the site the full text of the message is in the email. If the message on its own doesn't inspire me to click through to your profile you're dead already. The message should say who you are, why I should care, and what you want from me, and for the love of god please keep it under 5 lines. I'd suggest that you post one or two messages you've sent out that nobody responded to so that the community can give you feedback.
Sati Hillyer
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Sati Hillyer Entrepreneur • Advisor
Looking to Hire a Ruby Engineer to join OneMob - 2015 Gartner Cool Vendor for CRM Sales
Thanks all. This is my typical message:

Subject - I have an idea! Can you chat?
Body - Hi ___,

I have an idea with investor interest. I have a cofounder who provides deep industry expertise for the space we are going after (not to mention will be our first customer). I'm looking for a technical cofounder who can help me build the product and team. *****I usually add a line here about something I read from their profile that's relevant*****

Would you have a few minutes to chat?

Best,
Sati
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