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Has anyone had good luck hiring engineers out of coding bootcamps or online code schools?

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I've heard mixed results about the quality of candidates coming out of online coding schools and 12 week bootcamps. Are they able to be successful in a development role or do they need a lot of on-the-job-training? Just wondering what others' experiences have been. And, are some sources better than others?

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David Crooke
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David Crooke Entrepreneur
Serial entrepreneur and CTO
We do it at my day job. They take a long time to ramp up, and a lot of mentoring, but you can hire them cheap. Not at all suitable for a startup.
Edward Robertshaw
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Started TinyCall
Depends on your expectations.

Can you learn a 3 or 4 year Computer Science degree in ~90 days? Not likely. Can you take a smart person and give them new skills? Yes you can. Of course you should research the boot camp as well, like university's quality varies.

Overall, if you have lots of experienced engineers already, it can be a smart move as they can support the continued learning and delegate simpler tasks. You can justify a lower salary while they ramp up and continue to learn.

If you want an engineer who can work alone and build a new product from scratch... well thats not so smart.


Lane Campbell
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Lane Campbell Advisor
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It really depends on the person. You need a technical person with years of experience to vet them.
Mike Taylor
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Mike Taylor Entrepreneur
Web Developer
People that attend bootcamps come from hugely varied backgrounds. They can also be attracted to a variety of technologies and interested in developing particular skills - or, they might not know which direction they want to go yet.

No one is solving industry problems by comparing bootcamp grads to CS degree grads. You're leaps ahead of the industry if you're building your team by utilizing those people in the best roles for their respective skill sets. You'll get the best results if you evaluate each developer individually. Developers that attend bootcamps are not as homogeneous as students in CS degree programs - so, it's much more difficult to compare apples to apples, and difficult to rank bootcamps in terms of quality. In the end, it's the individual that is driving their own success, not the bootcamp's company name.

When you hire developers or engineers from traditional sources, do you get mixed results?
Joe Monastiero
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Joe Monastiero Advisor
CEO, Founder nFlate
I went to a Start-up Weekend in NoCal 16 months ago with my brilliant idea in hand. I pitched my idea to the group, got 4 people interested in working on it with me. One was brilliant, another (who was not) called a brilliant friend and brought him in to help and a 3rd grabbed me at the end of the weekend and asked to join the team. We've been together for 16 months now, them working part-time, me full-time (bootstrapped). We release our 1st product next week. Many investors are now interested.

So, at the risk of not sounding snarky, sure, it can work. It did for me.

A caveat - I'm pretty technical, so I believe that has made the difference in holding the team together and in buy-in.

Good luck!
David Schwartz
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David Schwartz Entrepreneur • Advisor
Multi-Platform (Desktop+Mobile) Rapid Prototyping + Dev, Tool Dev
Startup Weekend is neither a "coding bootcamp" nor an "online coding school". It's designed to produce exactly the results that you got (ideally, anyway).

In terms of what the OP is asking, did the people who are working with you get their programming experience (the "brilliant" ones) get their experience from a coding bootcamp or an online coding school not long before jumping on board with you? If not, do you think if they had would you have seen the success you've seen with them?
Rob Mitchell
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Rob Mitchell Entrepreneur
Senior Java Software Engineer at Direct Commerce
(great last name, btw!)

As a 28 year software pro, I took a "bootcamp" weekend course in iPhone Xcode development and for me, it was awesome. I had dedicated time and resources for the 3-day weekend and was able to be extremely helpful in the development and debugging on an iPhone app and server REST app at the same time.

But to try and hire someone without years of education and experience with just a bootcamp certificate, yikes, you're taking a big risk, IMO.

Ana Ulin
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Ana Ulin Entrepreneur • Advisor
Experienced builder of software and teams
"I've heard mixed results about the quality of candidates coming out of..." <-- you could add any other source to the end of this sentence, and it would be true.

You need to interview and evaluate these candidates in the same way you would do anyone else. Some of them are awesome, some of them have a lot of potential but need coaching/mentoring, and some are not very good. Same goes for recents graduate from "brand name" institutions.

Bootcamp grads can be perfectly suitable for a startup; I've hired a couple of them in the past, for small companies, and had success. Possibly they are even better suited to a startup than an average recent grad, because bootcamp grads on average seem more energized and "hungry".
Joe Monastiero
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Joe Monastiero Advisor
CEO, Founder nFlate
I agree with David, my message was out of context. Bootcamps and startup weekends are two different things. I should have made that clear at the beginning of the post.

BTW - the snarky, not snarky comment, at least on my side, was intended to be humorous, not inflammatory.
Rob Gropper
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Rob Gropper Entrepreneur
Director at PetHero, SPC - Member at Eastside Incubator - Principal at Tuxedo Technologies Group
@ David; Kimberly never stated that she was going to build her startup with someone from a 12 week coding school or bootcamp - "But it baffles me that people would seriously consider building a startup with the most inexperienced, cheapest labor they can find..." She simply asked if they could be successful in a coding roll or if they needed a lot of OJT. That said, maybe she is considering hiring someone of this calibre to help her build an MVP. She's building a startup and doing what entrepreneurs do - she's improvising and doing whatever it takes to move the ball forward and for that she deserves kudos not a dope slap. If hiring a green 'developer' gets her closer to a prototype or MVP that she can then improve with more skilled labor down the road then more power to her. I (and most investors) tend to admire scrappy entrepreneurs who find a way to get it done.
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