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Patent attorney in SFBA

Does anyone have recommendations on proceeding with a provisional
patent filing in the bay area w.r.t. attorney to use, any other
general tips? How much does it usually cost?

Best,
--Dhruv

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Istvan Jonyer
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VC at NexStar Partners

I have submitted a provisional patent application via my firm's internal
lawyers. After having see the submitted packet I had the impression that I
could have easily done it myself. It's been a few years, but as I recall,
it was a USPTO form with my whitepaper attached. It did not look anything
like a regular patent. I'd save my money for the real thing (which you'll
have to do within a year).

Why do you want to apply for a provisional patent?

Istvan

On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Dhruvkaran Mehta <dhruvka...@gmail.com>wrote:

Patrick Remy
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What a provisional patent does for you, if the claims finally submitted in
the REAL patent application are the same (how much the same, I can't say) as
in the provisional patent, it enables you to set the date of the real patent
(if/when issued) back to the date of the provisional patent filing.

Provisional patent filings are easy and-unless followed within a year by a
real patent application-meaningless. But if all is in order, the effective
date of the patent filing goes back to the earlier date.

So it's just about date stamping the effective date of the patent coverage,
up to a year earlier.

Some use a provisional patent filing as a rationale to say "patent pending,"
but that's deceptive because there are no standards for filing a provisional
patent. Plus, the USPTO doesn't even look at them. Filing a real patent is
when they are required to start examining. If a patent is granted, then they
would (presumably) look at the provisional and, if the claims are the same,
establish the application date as the date of the provisional filing.

Pat Remy

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I have submitted a provisional patent application via my firm's internal
lawyers. After having see the submitted packet I had the impression that I
could have easily done it myself. It's been a few years, but as I recall, it
was a USPTO form with my whitepaper attached. It did not look anything like
a regular patent. I'd save my money for the real thing (which you'll have to
do within a year).

Why do you want to apply for a provisional patent?

Istvan

On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Dhruvkaran Mehta <dhruvkahttp://groups.google.com/group/founderdating?hl=en.

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David VanZanten
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Dhruv,

I'd do nolo.com. It's cheap/fast to do provisionals there.

D

On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Dhruvkaran Mehta <dhruvka...@gmail.com>wrote:

Brian Robards
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My friend started a website where you can bid out legal work and gain feedback on others previous experience with lawyers. Most of their lawyers are located in the bay area.

It may be useful,  www.upcounsel.com

Brian

On Aug 27, 2012, at 11:44 AM, Dhruvkaran Mehta <dhruvka...@gmail.com> wrote:

Ben Matteo
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On 8/27/2012 1:25 PM, Ben Matteo wrote:

AJAY BAM
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AJAY BAM Entrepreneur
Ceo and Co-founder at Vyrill Inc

All,

I wrote three provisionals myself as an entrepreneur as I was short on money to pay anyone to write them for me. ?Its pretty straightforward and fast if the problem is not super complex. ?There are bunch of sites that explain how to write provisionals.?

Thanks,
Ajay Bam
www.linkedin.com/in/ajaybam?

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