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Lawsuit against a development shop

I was wondering if anyone has tried sueing a development shop that did
terrible work.  I've had code reviews done by former employees, other
development shops, and developer friends and they are all telling me that
this is just terrible work.

How have people dealt with this type of situation before?
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Stefan Brunner
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Stefan Brunner Entrepreneur
Cofunder and COO at TheTechMap, Inc

I think you are out of luck with that. This is the reason why Infosys and Co
are still around.

--- Stefan

From: [removed to protect privacy] [mailto:[removed to protect privacy]]
On Behalf Of Anoop Kansupada
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:20 PM
To: [removed to protect privacy]
Subject: [FD Members] Lawsuit against a development shop

I was wondering if anyone has tried sueing a development shop that did
terrible work.  I've had code reviews done by former employees, other
development shops, and developer friends and they are all telling me that
this is just terrible work.  

How have people dealt with this type of situation before?

--

Anoop Kansupada

Founder & CEO, Dapprly <http://www.dapprly.com/>

Facebook: Dapprly <http://www.facebook.com/dapprly>

Twitter: @Noop212 <http://dapprly.tumblr.com/>

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he-world/658721370>

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Elie Makhoul
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Elie Makhoul Entrepreneur

Just delay payment until they fix their code, or come up with an
arrangement on a discounted payment - that if you haven't done so.
Better make code review part of the contracting process.

Good luck.

Elie

Elie Makhoul
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Elie Makhoul Entrepreneur

I would first sit down with them and discuss a free rewrite, redesign what
ever you need to achieve. You have nothing to loose but they have
reputation, potential law suite, etc...

If you have an internal team that can fix quickly just move on, you have
bigger things to make.

On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Anoop Kansupada
<anoop.kansup...@gmail.com>wrote:

Anoop Kansupada
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Anoop Kansupada Entrepreneur
Startup Business Development and Partnerships Manager, Operations, Entrepreneur, and Travel Enthusiast

There in lies the problem.  I used all my money on them and can't pay an
internal team!
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Anoop Kansupada
Founder & CEO, Dapprly <http://www.dapprly.com/>

Facebook: Dapprly <http://www.facebook.com/dapprly>
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Stefan Brunner
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Cofunder and COO at TheTechMap, Inc

If there are not a pure bodyshop and have a reputation to lose, they will
fix it. This is pretty common in the US.

If you do not have any money, you will not be able to sue either. A lot
lawsuit anyway can cost more than you may collect. A reputative company,
however, would always be concerned of their reputation - it is a social
world. Bodyshop on the other hand may not care much. They always have the
lure of too-good-to-be-true.

In my last job as Product Manager my new SVP decided to get rid of my
Engineering team in Bangalore and replace with Infosys. We ended up paying a
multiple factor of my guys and got little in return besides customers
complaining about quality. Did they ever got up to speed? Eventually.
Essentially, we paid for their learning curve and that was pretty steep and
took two years.

--- Stefan

From: [removed to protect privacy] [mailto:[removed to protect privacy]]
On Behalf Of Anoop Kansupada
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:52 PM
To: Elie Mak
Cc: sbrunhttp://www.dapprly.com/>

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On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Elie Mak <eliefut...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sridhar Alla
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Sorry to hear that Anoop.

 If its the iPhone app you are referring to, i can get you a free
consultation with a professional app guy in boston, you can chat with him
and get clarifications.
I also use a Delhi based development company for my own startup and i can
get you in touch for a honest assessment of any work to be done.

regards,
sridhar

Max Avroutski
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eCommerce, Software Developer, Usability, Marketing & Product Creation consulting services.

Then this is your very expensive lesson to learn that you need to manage your projects much better.

You shouldn't spend good money after "bad money" on a lawsuit that you are not guarantied by a lawyer to win by him offering you to sue them on contingency fee bases and him paying all the filing and other fees. And no lawyer will guaranty a win, but some will take cases on contingency bases, but not likely the cases like yours if you spent less than $20K. Consider this a lesson.

Max

--- On Wed, 12/5/12, Anoop Kansupada <an...@dapprly.com> wrote:

From: Anoop Kansupada <an...@dapprly.com>
Subject: Re: [FD Members] Lawsuit against a development shop
To: "Elie Mak" <eliefut...@gmail.com>
Cc: sbrun...@spamcop.net, [removed to protect privacy]
Date: Wednesday, December 5, 2012, 4:51 PM

There in lies the problem. ?I used all my money on them and can't pay an internal team!?
--Anoop KansupadaFounder & CEO,?Dapprly

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On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Elie Mak <eliefut...@gmail.com> wrote:

Barak Kassar
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Founder / Creative Director Rassak Experience, San Francisco

As a founder (zibkids.com) and service provider (rassak.com) I have been on
both sides of this. I agree with Max's comments about managing. As a buyer,
there is nothing worse than the feeling of buying services and not  really
knowing what's going on with the vendor and the process. This is not
uncommon with any technical service -- whether it's engineering/dev or
something else where there is a great expertise gap b/w buyer and provider.
There are many services where there is great expertise gap (including legal
services -- so watch out there too!). Communication is crucial. As a buyer
you have to ask questions early and often --- and if you get the feeling
that you're not feeling in control and that things are not right you have
to push really hard to get the information and management process down so
you do feel ok. And if it's not happening, you gotta part ways long before
a project ends like this one did.
As a service provider I know this feeling from the other side too.. one can
tell when a client is not  as engaged as s/he should be .. and it's
incumbent on us to communicate early and often. If we don't it can end
badly.
-barak

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Sridhar Alla
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Sridhar Alla Entrepreneur • Advisor
Big Data Architect, Engineer, Trainer and Agile practitioner

From my experience, you have to have clear understanding on who will
architect and design and to what detail. You cannot hold them accountable
if you did not specifically give them a particular look and feel and
detailed design. Most professional companies care about their reputation
and will fix any glaring problems but if you want to change something
fundamental (unless you have documented proof you asked for something else
and they committed to the task) they will charge more money and there is no
legal go around. A good way is to engage the company for a prototype with
complete look and feel of all functionality. Walk away from any company who
wants upfront payment (a token amount is fine).

-sridhar

Kelsye Nelson
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Kelsye Nelson Entrepreneur
Author. Publishing Consultant.

Well crap Anoop! Discovering bad code is such a disappointment. I had a
similar experience with an offshore company while building Writer.ly.
Luckily, by gathering my evidence and consulting with my lawyer before
confronting the firm, I was able to present a strong case and renegotiate
an entire rebuild at no additional cost. It was worth it to the company to
save their reputation in the face of such incredible evidence of failure.
I'd be happy to share with you the legal documentation that came out of the
process and chat with you on the phone if you email me directly at
Kel...@Writer.ly.

Good luck!

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